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PAS and parental abduction

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Post #  000005f6
pas and parental abduction
From: Doug
Remote Name: 152.163.100.201

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In 1984 I was divorced from a woman that was ordered the day of the hearing to allow me visitation of our newborn child which was taken the day after coming home via a order of protection alleging my abuse of the mother. The abuse was unfounded. The mother after my visit one time with my daughter then disappeared basically barring me from my daughter illegally. She even went as far as to sign off rights to support to attempt to keep me away. I searched for years to find them and then one day I got stopped for tint on car windows. The next thing you know I was told there was a warrant for my arrest for non support. I posted the bond and immediately contacted the court and learned they would keep the bond as they disregarded the idea she signed off on support. The next surprising fact was they could not locate her to render the support so it was refunded to me . These events took place in 1993. In 1996 a shocking revelation happened I found them. Back in Michigan again, being concerned for the welfare of my daughter I did not go knock on the door rather I called the Friend of the Court and advised them telling them I wanted her arrested as the order stated she must maintain current address on file with them. Of course that did not happen and surprise she filed for change of Domicile and the courts let her move to Arizona. After I was told by the friend of the court that they would stipulate her history and request that she not be allowed to move, this turned out to be a lie. She now has a legal right to run and again I have no idea of a address for my daughter. In 2004 I receive a leeter stating I needed to sign it so the state could collect federal monies for what service they provide me.....mind you I called and stated you have never once told me the truth more or less assist me that I would in no way sign the form. Now they tell me I owe $70,000 dollars in support and pay up.....I asked where is my daughter, they said we cannot tell you. I told the enforcement officer go ahead get a warrant and I will show up attorney in hand. Then he proceeds to tell me attorney Dave Riffel can help me resolve this as the statute of limitations has lapsed on enforcement. He then gave me attorney Riffel's number and told me it would cost me $2500 dollars and he would work with him to get this case closed and the support dismissed due to the letter from the mother relinquishing support then the refunded support in 1993 and the fact the statute of limitations has run. I began to get very curious as I knew he had violated law with the referal. I now have the internet to use to search that wasnt available back then and what do I find the mother has done this mirror image in Arizona again. Now there is a father there strugglig for his rights to his son since infancy. We have now spoken and she has lied so many times in court yet she defies the idea what we now can prove together will have any affect on her. She is telling this 5 year old that daddy and Doug are out to hurt mommy. That if the MONSTERS come this is how you escape. She has falsely accused him of abuse again. The courts have found no evidence of any type of abuse from him. We will be seeking a change of custody to the father for all of her previous history. As for my now 20 year old daughter she is so confused I hear reports of grandma fighting with her over me. The mother and Grandmother have alleged abuse by every man they have ever come into contact with. They have told my daughter I threatened to kill her family in court during the only hearing we ever had yet that very day the judge ordered me rights to see my daughter which in fact was the last time I ever saw her. This is the type of parent that should be jailed by the state as for me to seek prosecution for abduction only makes me look like the bully her mother led her to believe I am. The State of Michigan should be held accountable for aiding this woman in destroying my childs life!   (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 000005f8
Re: pas and parental abduction
From: lisacirig@yahoo.com
Remote Name: 70.16.84.21

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Doug...Do not ever give up on your daughter, let's hope and pray that one day she will know and understand the truth. I cannot imagine not seeing my child for 20 years. Parental Alienation Syndrome is a very real deal and the poor children are the victims. I too have been alienated from my children by my ex-husband...but I do see a light at the end of the tunnel. Stay strong. Lisa  (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post # 000005f9
Re: pas and parental abduction
From: Doug
Remote Name: 205.188.117.9

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Lisa , thank you for your words . I will not give up as I have just begun to fight. I will tell you I have found one of the best pas sites anyone could ask for.......KRIGHTSRADIO.COM.....This is a station that you can hear right here on your computer. It is all about PAS. It is funded by the people and the people only. It has no government funding so if anyone wants to be a part listen in it is truly amazing! This friday from 7 till 9 pm is strictly a discussion on PAS. ddsd1104@aol.com   
(Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  000005fc
Re: pas and parental abduction
From: snuz2luz
Remote Name: 152.163.100.197

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thanks for the post Doug. (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  000005fd
Re: pas and parental abduction
From: Michael devinsbuddy@juno.com
Remote Name: 64.136.27.225

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I am extremely familiar with Doug's problem. I was married to his ex-wife 16 years after his divorce. Early on I was told what a monster he was. Three months after the birth of my son, my wife did a complete repeat of what had happened to Doug. Numerous court appearances and accusations by me of her prior actions were rebuffed by her testimony that she had to run for fear of her life. She refused all efforts to locate Doug. I finally decided to take the 10 hours per week time I was "allowed" by her family. Arizona courts recommend considerably more than she and her family were offering. The mental and emotional damage to my son will never be known. I counter there attacks with hugs and kisses and "guy" stuff. Most recently my son complained about Doug and Daddy hurting mommy and Devin. They claim they have had nothing to do with his fear of Doug and Daddy. He refuses to sleep alone...they have an "escape plan" if someone breaks in to hurt them. At five years old, shouldn't he be throwing a fishing line into Encanto Park Lagoon, Checking out the latest Pixar movie or learning how to hammer nails. Our exploits are chronicled at [Webmaster's Note 2010: The post's author listed an old Geocities website "lessonsfordevin" which is no longer accessible]. Sorry for the meandering. To make a long story shorter, Doug and I have become friends. Ironic that we both had clean police records prior to this situation. Amazing what a sick family can do to you. I am working with my daughters on this end to, hopefully, get Doug's daughter to take an honest look at what her dad has been portrayed as. She's not a bad kid, just lied to. Michael   (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  00000621
Re: pas and parental abduction
From: 
Remote Name: 68.255.112.130

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Do you happen to live in Jackson County? My step-daughter was abducted by her mother on Jan 7, 2005. She has, as of 1/11/05, absolutely no parental rights... This being after a 2 1/2 year custody battle, including this 2nd time abduction! The court systems have bent over backwards to help the proven-mentally-unstable mother and beat down the custodial father. It's truly amazing what the State and FOC do! And I can speak from both sides of the coin on this considering I am a mother as well... FOC never did anything for me either.   (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  Post # 00000653
Re: pas and parental abduction
From: ddsd1104
Remote Name: 152.163.101.9


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I never saw this post before......I apologize for not replying....much sooner.....have you had any luck in a search for the child?  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  0000067a
Re: pas and parental abduction
From: 
Remote Name: 68.98.77.234

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Lisa you are not being told the whole truth. Don't believe anything from these two men.  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  00000600
Re: pas and parental abduction snus2luz ty
From: doug
Remote Name: 64.12.117.9

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I hope i got the nick right if I didn't please forgive me......but if this is your discussion board ty for bring this issue to light for so many. People should not feel alone in this struggle. And Dont give up for the sake of the children ! They need their MOM And DAD   (Last changed: February 26, 2006)  

 

 

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